you're living with i think your 80-year-old mother in one of the most expensive cities in the u.s. how do you make ends meet on your current salary? >> my current salary, i help out with whatever i can with my mom. she's retired under her social security and pension. it makes me feel real bad i can't do more so what will happen if she dies? where will i be? what would i do? >> jennifer: so the only way you're able to survive is by living with your mom at 59 years old. >> yes. >> jennifer: jonathan, why has it been so hard to unionize fast food workers in the past? >> well, i think the idea that many people believed was that fast food workers were temporary workers, were teenagers working after school jobs when in fact, it is just not true, especially after the recession when so many people lost their full-time jobs. and had to rely on fast food work and other work. they have families to support. they have to put food on the table. they have to survive. and to be honest, people just can't make it and you know, i think it is at a tipping point where people in the industry just can't